HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

Group buy CLOSED Available to all registered users: Garmin 310XT from HK$2,340! For those of you who are unfamiliar with the Garmin Forerunner series, the 2 main problems experienced by runners and triathletes are: 1) it's not waterproof, and 2) the Garmin Forerunner 405's silly bezel doesn't work when it is wet. The Garmin Forerunner 310XT solves these problems.
Details & reviews of the watch are here : http://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=27335&ra=true http://www.wired.com/reviews/product/pr_0526_garmin_fr60 http://blog.nuclearbunny.org/2009/08/23/review-garmin-forerunner-310xt/
Keith and I have tried approaching the local agent to give us a bulk purchase discount, but they quoted an exorbitant price of HK$3400! Their reason? Because they offer a 1 year warranty. (In other words, it's $600 for a local 1 year warranty). After searching around a bit, we found an Australian company called GPS-R-US (http://myworld.ebay.com/gps-r-us/) that is willing to work with us on a 10 unit offer group buy. The following are the details of that offer.
The Price Garmin Forerunner 310XT : HK$2,340 (USD300) + misc service & exchange rate charges Garmin Forerunner 310XT with premium soft HR strap : HK$ 2,574 (USD330) + misc service & exchange rate charges FREE SHIPPING !
The Warranty GPS-R-US will treat us as a local Australian buyer. This means that the warranty will work as follows:
1) If watch is DOA (Dead On Arrival) or dies within 7 days, you send the watch back to GPS-R-US at your own cost. Supplier will replace you with a new one and courier it back to you at their cost. 2) If watch dies or have problems within 1 year, you send the watch back to GPS-R-US at your own cost. Supplier will repair it and courier it back to you at their cost. 3) If watch dies or have problems AFTER 1 year, you send the watch back to GPS-R-US at your own cost. Supplier will repair it and courier it back to you at your own cost. (Note that even for a locally purchased Garmin, if it dies after 1 year, the local agent will charge close to $1000 to send it to Taiwan for repairs).
How To Buy & Payment Email me at xxxxxxxxxxx to indicate your interest. I can also be contacted at xxxxxxxx. You pay directly to the supplier and no money goes thru' me. If you do not have a Pay Pal account, either set up one or pay thru' someone that has one. If you do not have a Pay Pal account and find it too tedious to set up one, I can pay on your behalf. For this, you will need to deposit the funds into my HSBC credit card account and email me the deposit slip as proof of payment. Please write your name & contact no. on the deposit slip, and then either scan it or take a photo. Note Pay Pal charges & credit card charges apply (probably less than $100). Once 10 people have paid up, Keith & I will place the order with GPS-R-US, and they will send out the 310XTs.
The Collection In order to save on cost, GPS-R-US will send the watches to my office. Once the 310XT watch arrives, you will be contacted. We will arrange for a coffee session at a Star Bucks in SHATIN to meet up, blow-water (ie. chat) and for you to pick up the watch. Please note that this group purchase exercise is a labour of love, which means I'm not making any money out if it. If you are unhappy about something, please tell me NICELY. Do not complain.
For and On Behalf of the HKRunners.com team, Richy Last undated by keithchan on Oct 6, 2006; 15:19

Re: HKRunners.com [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

The people have placed orders so far are (updated Oct 6, 2009): With HRM : 1) Richy ** (PAID) 2) Ka Fai ** (PAID) 3) Simon Nip ** (PAID) 4) Garland Tung ** (PAID) 5) Wiwin Leung ** (PAID) 6) Douglas Adler ** (PAID) 7) Dovy (Ray) ** (PAID) 8) Ho Chak ** (PAID) 9) Miller (Dennis) ** (PAID) 10) Tony Falso 11) Arnold Fan ** (PAID)
W/O HRM 1) Keith Chan ** (PAID) 2) Wynnie Fung ** (PAID)

Re: HKRunners.com [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

Group buy closed in less than 4 hours as the 10-unit quota has been met! We will discuss with the dealer to offer special discount to our users who buy from them individually later. Details will be announced later on this thread.

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

I was thinking since lunchtime, how to convince my better half that this is one gadget I must have !

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

She may not care too much if you tell her it costs only $300 (but don't say it's US dollar) :)

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Go hard to go home! Dang! I thought about this purchase too slowly. Sold out already! I wanted a new running toy wah! So cheap too - only $300!

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What a bargain! I am so late too...

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Don't think you missed much here. Had my 310XT less than 3 weeks and it is off to get repaired. Bought my abroad and Garmin Asia wanted to charge to repair it. I caused stir on the Garmin forum, eo eventually Garmin agreed not to charge me. Looking at the Garmin Forum, it does appear there are couple of issues. https://forums.garmin.com/forumdisplay.php?f=31

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

I'd be keen to get one!

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

Oops. Late for the group buy. I want a new one since my last Forerunner broken after running in the rain last summer :(

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

Dear nigelee and alexc As I mentioned earlier, we will discuss with the dealer for another deal for those who place order individually and directly with them later. We want to keep the quantity of our bulk order small so that it can save us some time and troubles handling the payment and distribution, and possible troubles that may come up later just in case, and we also need to make sure everyone who place the order understand the difference and the risks involved between buying direct from overseas (so-called "water good") and buying locally. So maybe it makes sense for you to wait for a few weeks and see what happens to the watches of our "brave" men and women before making a decision. Hi Bigeasy Thanks for the information. Do you mean Garmin Asia (in Hong Kong or Taiwan?) is now willing to repair it for you free of charge even if you buy from abroad? That's good news for those buying "water goods". Causing a stir on the Garmin forum should not be too difficult, I guess.

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

The thing with Garmin products is that if it works, it's great. If it doesn't work, it sucks BIG TIME. A female runner once told me that after running 1k, her 405 told her she had run 40,706km (circumference of Earth is 40,705km). Ha ha.

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Go hard to go home! I have never run that far but I presssed my lap settings incorrectly once and managed a 48 sec mile. I'm still waiting for Guiness World Record endorsement. It seems that they can't understand the Tsing Yi industrial area dog who was the only witness to this amazing feat.

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Hi Keith, I tried the local office Hong Kong, and it was pretty much a waste of a phone call,I was told to call the Taiwan office. Garmin Taiwan wanted to charge me, but with a little pressure from UK branch, the watch was finally replaced within a week. Courier charges at my own expense. Couple points to note about the watch. It is great watch and a lot better than the 405. The new HRM is comfortable and it easier to put on than the older version. The GPS and HRM doesn't work in water, so the watch only acts as as stopwatch in water. There are other extra functions like the auto pause function which may be useful to some. Don't get me wrong, Garmin are moving back in the right direction in producing a better product, but the product support is extremely poor if something goes wrong, especially here in Hong Kong. Thanks

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Hi Bigeasy Thanks for sharing. I think Garmin should replace their local sole agent who obviously has not been serving the best of their interest. They have good products but their sales networks here are rather poor (have anyone seen any Garmin advertising?). I undestand that even if you buy from their Hong Kong agent, they will still need to send the watch to Taiwan for repair (which must take ages to return) and charge a high fee for it if after warranty period which is totally unacceptable. And I can't see why they can sell it for HK$3400 (US$435) for the model with HRM, while Garmin's suggested retail price in the US is only US$379.99 and a lot of places online are selling at around US$350.

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gents, It's been painful experience with the local agent two years ago when i with forerunner 305 Hrm,can't believe that they still work in the same way. Bigeasy, Guess you met the 1 and only 1 salesman ,Mr Daniel.I went through the same process as you, sent mail and rang them, won't get any good answer but Charge you all the way,so what is the different for i buy a 'water goods'. I sent a complaint email to US headquarter, 2 days later, i got the call from local sole agent, had the whole boxset changed.

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

Thanks Keith, I've contacted the seller directly for a price. Cheers, Nigel

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

I am sure if everyone complains enough or we all sign a petition and send over to Garmin International, we may see some change in service levels.

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

Yeah, do the Hong Kong thingy : Sign a petition. March on the streets. Get a legislator to represent our cause. Opportunistic legislator will then show up on TV cameras with crying runners with broken Garmins. Ha ha.

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

I'm still happy with my Forerunner 205 (without HRM) that charged me less than USD200.

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

I wrote under a separate heading, if your Garmin needs repair, just send it directly to Taiwan. It is a fixed price + shipping and it comes back pretty quick - within 10 business days in my case. And the watch looks brand new when it returns.

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

Some queries on FR310XT via FR305 : 1) Do you know if the HRM of FR305 is compatible with the HRM of FR310XT ? 2) Does the durability of the arrow buttons improved in FR310XT as I found my FR305's arrow button weared out a lot and even broken after 2 years usage which therefore leading to some abnormal hang or malfunction ? 3) Does the charging of FR310XT follow similarly to FR305 as I have a concerns for the oxidation of the 4 golden contact points connecting to crandle. It may be oxidised very easily when used freq under water, esp sea.

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

1) Yes. 2) Can't tell you. The 310XT is new; nobody has used it for over 1 year yet. 3) Same charging method. Afraid of oxidation? Clean the contact points after every use.

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Richy, Thank you for the helpful feedback. I also has the great interest to replace my wear out FR305, esp it's water resistence to a depth of 50 meters, but have great concern if it is really not only waterproof as stop watch , but also can support HR measurement and GPS function as usual when swimming or diving within 50m depth? Hope if any existing user can help to give comments on it's actual supporting function when use it under water? Many thanks!

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

PW, As far as I know, there is no brand of HRM on the market right now that works underwater. Read this in-depth review. Extremely detailed & helpful. http://dcrainmaker.blogspot.com/2009/09/garmin-forerunner-310xt-in-depth...

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

Richy, Great! what's an excellent and helpful review! Thanks :)  

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT]: Purchase by individuals

Please see this post regarding the latest arrangement for purchase by individuals. http://www.hkrunners.com/node/2781#comment-17963

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT]: Group Purchase

Hi,

I'm wondering some comments / feedback to all the brave souls who purchased the Garmin Forerunner last year.

Any particular highlights / downside regarding the watch? Is it user friendly in illustrating and downloading the time /distance / heart rate etc and etc? Is the data useful for analysis such as constant 80% maximum heart rate training in LSD?

I asked because I would like to have a try on Garmin's product as my Suunto T6 heart rate belt broke down into two pieces after 2.5 years intensive use (probably because of excessive soiling of sweat).

Young Yeung

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT]: Group Purchase

Its HRM is excellent. The user interface of FR310XT is very friendly and behaves similar to the previous verson FR305. The battery can be last for around 20 hours even under GPS mode and water-proof are excellent. It can setup 4 page screens with max data-fields 4 x 4 (i.e. 16 data-fields) plus the virtual partner screen. But the buttons are not improved and not durable. I found the scroll buttons are easy to be broken after 2-3 months' intensive use in this race season. The hang problem occurs more frequently than the previous FR305.

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I'd like to also know if there's any chance for group order again such that more people could join and enjoy the benefit of using GPS watch.

After the SCM 2010, I start training again and now I'd like to commit more so using a GPS watch should encourage training as it's quite boring always running on treadmill.

I've search and review quite lots of review on Garmin product, seems 310XT should be the best at the moment (405 has lots of bad mouth on the bezel part). Unfortunately there's no official warranty product at Hong Kong now and seems most people are buying it on eBay. So it will be great if such kind of group order could start again (I think it should be easy to gather at least 10 interested parties here if the condition is unchanged for the eBay seller)

Thanks. :)

John

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT]: Group Purchase

I bought the 310XT from an Australian firm on a reputable website, which has also been used by another friend of mine. About HK$3,000 from memory and it is despatched by courier and gets here in about 2-3 days.

It is my first GPS watch and I can't rate it highly enough. The only issue that I have found is a compatibility problem between the USB drive software and the new Snow Leopard OS in MAC, but I think this has now been rectified.

Bottom line is that this is a watch I recommend, and if there is no demand for a group purchase, I am more than happy to add in the link to the Aussie sellers. HK stockists seem pretty hopeless on Garmin by the looks of it.

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT]: Group Purchase

I called the Australian company earlier this year to buy from them, but i was told that they no longer provide the service into HK and was referred to a shop in Discovery Bay that I eventually bought the 310XTs from. Dont remember the name of the shop but it was in the Plaza and there shouldn't be too many sports shops there so should be fairly easy to locate.

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT]: Group Purchase

Yes, thanks for your feedback, maybe you could add the aussie sellers at here as well such that we may have an alternative. Shop at local store normally sell at around $3,600 now.

I'm also running Snow Leopard and hope the issue has been solved now. :)

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Hi jl,
May I know if that's the ebay seller of group offer? At their information at ebay, they still have delivery option to HK. anyway, May i know the price of the shop at Discovery Bay (Though it's a bit far away) ?

Thanks.

john

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT]: Group Purchase

these are the guys (my disclaimer: I have no vested interest in this business).

http://www.firstendurance.com.au/index.html?cPath=231

As I said, should be here in 2-3 days and you can even track the Garmin's journey on the courier tracking system, which increases the sense of anticipation by another notch. I recommend you get the heart monitor as well, I have found that to be very useful.

Re: Garmin Forerunner 310XT

I bought mine from Australia too, but a friend of mine who posted a message here last week just bought a 310XT (model with HRM) two days ago at Wai Kei Photos & Audio in TST for HK$3200, which seems to be a good price. They don't keep stocks; so you need to call them in advance to make reservation before picking up the watch a day later. The shop is an authorized dealer for Asia Link so it comes with the local warranty. The address and tel of the shop can be found on this page: http://gpsasialink.com/Dealer.htm

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

yes - it was the same thread from the Group Buy

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Hi ade69, thanks for your update. Do you know if it cover warranty as well. Heard that 310XT has fewer broken case after several month.

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Hi keith,
$3200 is quite good price, however, I read from several discussion that Asia Link is no longer the authrozied dealer for Garmin Forerunner product, i worry about the warranty to buy it at HK, as you know, if there's no warranty and the shop won't help you to return to the service provider, then eBay maybe a better choice as the price should around $2500-$2700 with HRM now.

Thanks.

john

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Hi John

$2500-$2700 sounds excellent, and actually I bought all my Garmins from overseas, but there are people who prefer one that comes with local warranty. Know nothing about the status of Asia Link, but instead of reading discussions on Internet (not always reliable) people can simply call them to find out.

Re: Garmin Forerunner 310XT

the one I bought from the Australian seller comes with a 1 year warranty once you register the product online. To the best of my knowledge, this is a global warranty, which is not contingent on purchase location. I'd do a quick check on the Garmin website though.

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

Hi there

I'm reading your post just now, a bit late! Any chance to find this Garmin watch at a good price somewhere in hong kong?!

Thanks!

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I've asked the eBay seller gps-r-us, they said they will ship to HK with US$20 shipping rate, the 310XT with Heart Rate monitor is around US $320, so the total price is US$340 ~= HK $2635.

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I'm still thinking whether buy 310XT, 305+HRM+Foot Pod (US$220 at eBay) or using the Runmeter at my iPhone. I'm now using Runmeter with several runs and it seems great with Voice announcement, GPS logging, Ghost run (not try yet) and integrated with Google Map.

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Hi John

GPS-R-US is the same dealer we bought from for our group earlier; Patrick is very helpful too.

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Thx Keith, I just confirmed Patrick that we can ship the watch back to him for 1 year warranty.

So the price for 310XT is

1. 310XT ONLY: $295+$20 = $315 = HK$2442
2. 310XT wHRM: $320+$20 = $340 = HK$2635

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

Quite good price, does it need a bulk order? Interest to give it a try, thanks.

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

hi 3man,

the price is show at eBay, please kindly search the seller name 'gpr-r-us' and you could find the same listing price, i just asked the seller the cost to ship HK and the warranty. :)

Actually, i'm bidding the 305+HRM for max US$150, so if i succeed, i will probably stay with that. :P

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

Please check out our website, we are retailing the garmin forerunner 310XT with the Heart Rate Monitor for 3150 HK $ and offering a 5 % discount to HK runner's. We offer free shipping throughout Hong Kong.

Regards

SportsWorld Limited
516, 5/F, Block C
Discovery Bay Plaza
Discovery Bay

T: 2914 1323
E: info@sportsworld.hk
W: www.sportsworld.hk

Re: Forerunner 310XT versus Forerunner 405CX and Forerunner 60

Earlier on, I asked for comments regarding the 310XT and resurrected this old topic.

I would like to ask for some summary of comments with regard to the performances of 310XT versus 405CX. Judging from the outlook, 405CX has a sleek design whereas the major downside is the bezel. The 310XT is quite bulky to me.

I have reservations to using GPS in HK because of our predominant urban setting prone to interference and hence in-accuracy in tracking distance.

On the other hand, I bought the Forerunner 60 with foot pod and premium soft strap heart rate monitor. The foot pod is so small that you don't notice when clipped on top of the shoe lace. It comes with USB ANT for uploading data. The price tag is only US$199. It is 98% accurate in providing distance, speed, pace, cadence against the usual data such as max / average / zone heart rate training etc and etc.

I just checked the official Garmin site and another new model Forerunner 110 (with GPS function) will be released in May 2010.

Re: Forerunner 310XT versus Forerunner 405CX and Forerunner 60

I have the 405 and the 310XT. As mentioned many times, the issue for the 405 is the bevel - but in another thread i was advised to lock in when running and that solved my problem. The main advantage is that it is pretty much a wearable watch that i can use on a daily basis, unlike the 310XT, and i can just take one watch when i travel.

The other problem with the 405 is that it does not seem to take water/sweat so well which is why i bought the 310XT ( but never really tested it! )

To summarize, 405 - good for daily use and sufficient for most purposes; 310XT great functionality but more bulky and solely for training and not daily usage.

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

I've asked again Patrick which has foot pod for 310XT with additional $75.

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I've been a user of 310XT but am not satisfy with it and had stopped using it for a while.

I've posted the problem of my 310XT on https://forums.garmin.com//showthread.php?s=d4e83513eef5fcd7c68881a456b8...

& you may see that the problem seems widespread.

In short, my 310XT had locked up at several occasions (incl. Mizuno HM & SCM) and I had lost confidence that it would perform at the field when I need it the most. I'm now reverting back to use my old faithful 205.

I don't mean to discourage you from buying 310XT but you may need to think about it's reliability as well.

Another issue that I had found out with the 310XT is that, in the cases it's not locked up, it always logged something different from my FR205 and the several other GPS my running pals were wearing.

I had experimented with it and found that if I run in a sports ground, the logged path of my loci was like a hexagon, instead of the following the oval shape of the standard sports ground. In other words, the GPS had 'cut the corner'. Later on, I learnt that Garmin had employed a so called 'smart logging' system that log the data point at the processor's will, which in occasions when there are many corners and bends on the trail, the 310XT would miss some points to 'help' the runner to smooth out the curve. The feature is good for running on straight track but not good for me because my training path is full of turns.

I hope this piece of info is helpful for your wise selection as a consumer.

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

Maybe Ah Chung's experience is at one end of the spectrum. So I'll present my experience from THE OTHER END of the spectrum.

I've been using my Garmin 310XT since we got the watch from the Group Buy. (Oct '09)

Problems experienced : ZERO.
No. of times the watch froze/hanged/locked-up : ZERO.

I've swum in the ocean with it. Biked up hills & crashed/fallen off a bike with it. It's a faithful companion in my runs. Needless to say, I'm perfectly happy with it.

Hence, I hope this piece of info will likewise be helpful in making a wise selection as a consumer.

Re: HKRunners [Garmin Forerunner 310XT] Group Buy offer

I also became an user of the 310XT since the Group Buy last year. Generaly speaking I am happy with the performance of it, except the calculation during signal lost. As I found that the speed is unreasonably fast when I passed through tunnel / under bridge (2:3x / km).

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Garmin had published a new firmware for 310XT. https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/fr310update.jsp According to the description, the problems that I had experienced were taken care of. I've just uploaded it and would be testing it in the coming trainings.